Should the treatment of high grade adenocarcinoma of the prostate with low PSA (<1ng/ml)be different?I find that the prognosis of my patients in this subgroup is very poor,irrespective of other prognosticators.Opinions,experiences ,literature,suggestions ?
I agree, pts with high Gleason Grade who are non-secretors do have poor prognosis. Its difficult to opine on their most optimum management, as there is no true indicator of response to treatment in these subgroup of pts other than evidence of clinical + / 1 radiological progression of their cancers.
If they have localised Disease as per MRI and if young —-> Offer Radical RT as opposed to surgery in view of high likelihood of disease outside the prostate. (very difficult to know about non-secretor status as we would usually assume early on that the PSA is low )
If metatsatic —> just manage them with usual std practice of Hormones with frequent use of ct scans and Bone scans to determine progression on 6 monthly or annual basis.
If hormone refractory offer them systemic chemotherapy when appropriate.
We find such pts roughly ~ 2% in our practice and we find them to be relatively young < 65, who do poorly overall.
Dear Hari, since my area is prostate brachytherapy, we are also exploaring this area for high risk prostate cancer patients, ofcourse highly selected localised patients only where you can give upto 145 GY to prostate which cannot be achieved with IG-IMRT. Standard treatment is what Rohit has already outlined http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18777953?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=20
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20152522?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=1
Treatment should be undertaken on the basis of Diagnosis and Staging. Prognosis is a modifier of expectation of success NOT a modifier of treatment decision. High risk cases can still be cured.
THUS …
a GS10 PSA 1.0 T3a/b case should be treated according to the literature which says that as a high risk case there is a chance of long term control (??cure) in 50%+ of cases, or have I missed some literature that says "low secretors all die irrespective"? So my discussion about the benefits of treatment will contain much lower numbers that a GS7, PSA 11 T3a case, but my treatment recommendation would be almost identical - EXCEPT I would start hormones and radiotherapy now, rather than 4 months after hormones. No data to support this though that I know of.
I would still follow PSA after treatment but less assiduously than normal (once a year?) and follow cliniocal symptoms much more closely. First line metastatic treatment (if ceased earlier) would be hromones but I would not expect much duration and refer for consideration of chemotherapy (for what is likely to be worth!) early.
Just a comment. If I remember correctly, if the differentiation is poor (that is higher grade), they tend to be non secretors as well as hormone resistant. please correct me if I am wrong. if doubling time is faster ( I would probably imagine higher alpha/beta ratio as well ) probably inclusion of chemo in the whole scheme of things might help.