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				<title>Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection: Re: Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nikhilesh Patil</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416151</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Any comment from the house if they have adopted sentinel LN and stopped complete axillary clearance?</p> 
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				<title>Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection: Re: Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 02:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nikhilesh Patil</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416151</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I attended a JC on this paper and had to read the full paper again.<br /> about 200 patients lost to follow-up (didn't know it can happen in USA too) and about 170 cases did not have LVSI commented upon and complete pathology missing in a good number of cases.<br /> But Iam surprised that many breast surgeons have changed there practice even before the data was published.<br /> Would be interesting to know how other breast surgeons in rest of the world are reacting to this.</p> 
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				<title>Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection: Re: Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nikhilesh Patil</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416151</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I agree Andrew, we are doing whole breast radiotherapy and axillary RT for this lady, infact unlike my training back home people in Canada routinely treat axilla (if indicated) based on the British Columbia data.</p> 
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				<title>Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection: Re: Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>AAM</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>61952</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>by my reading of the JAMA study, this lady was not eligible (&quot;<strong>Women were ineligible if they had 3 or more positive SLNs</strong>&quot;). We need to see the detail of the JAMA trial and keep to that patient profile very closely.</p> <p>I would be very uneasy about not having adjuvant nodal irradiation. She would have been eligible for the Danish and Canadian trials that show a survival improvement. The trial result tells us about axillary surgery, but nothing about axillary radiotherapy. Clearly the previous assumptions about 'good'/'bad' or 'adequate'/'inadequate' axillary surgery are incorrect. Either 2 nodes is enough, or axillary dissection just tells you about risk of further axillary disease. It also seems to suggest that another 10-14 LNs is insufficient to greatly affect the risk.</p> <p>Maybe we were wrong all along and nodes are now irrelevant except as a marker of metastatic risk?</p> 
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				<title>Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection: Axillary Dissection Vs No Axillary Dissection</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nikhilesh Patil</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416151</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>64/ postmenopausal lady, presented with a lump in right breast. Metastatic Work up negative. Clinically mobile 4cm tumor with no axillary ln. Bx=IDC.<br /> Sx: Lumpectomy with sentinel lymph node dissection done.<br /> HPR: 4.6 cms IDC, Grade 3, NO EIC, LVI focally positive. ER/PR strong positive. Her2 neu Negative. Clear Margins.<br /> LN: 3/4 positive no ECE.</p> <p>Was sent to us for adjuvant radiation, my teaching was that this lady needs complete axillary ln dissection however things have changed and our breast surgeons do not do it anymore. This publication is an excellent example.<br /> This study is published in full paper form and is ready to be discussed.<br /> <a href="http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/305/6/569.full.pdf+html">http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/305/6/569.full.pdf+html</a></p> <p>Please feel free to discuss and tell us how your breast team is handling this issue.</p> 
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				<title>Herceptin : Can we give with radiation?: Re: Herceptin : Can we give with radiation?</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hi! In my practice, I do give my radiation with herceptin and I am yet to encounter any increased acute effects.Late effects vs decrease in disease control due to delay-I plump for radiation.No IMN so far.CT based planning for all.</p> 
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				<title>Herceptin : Can we give with radiation?: Re: herceptin :can we give with radiation?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>sayan paul</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>535064</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>thanks santamda. early operable , infil ductal ca.no co morbidity. post BCS,</p> 
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				<title>Herceptin : Can we give with radiation?: Re: herceptin :can we give with radiation?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 00:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nikhilesh Patil</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416151</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Hi Sayan,<br /> Chemo and Radiation sequencing has always been an area of debate. Many institutions go by there own policies and many a times wait-times and patient convenience is also taken into account.<br /> We do NOT give Trastuzumab to our patients concurrent with RT, mainly becoz we do not know much about the toxicity profile of these patients. I dont know if other members of the group have tried it and what is the toxicity profile of there patients ?</p> 
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				<title>Herceptin : Can we give with radiation?: Re: herceptin :can we give with radiation?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Santam Chakraborty </wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416676</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>To answer part of your question there is no evidence per se to contraindicate concurrent adminstration of trastuzumab with radiation therapy except in patients receiving IMN radiation. I came across the following studies:<br /> 1. Belkacémi Y, Gligorov J, Ozsahin M, Marsiglia H, De Lafontan B, Laharie-Mineur H, et al. Concurrent trastuzumab with adjuvant radiotherapy in HER2-positive breast cancer patients: acute toxicity analyses from the French multicentric study. Annals of Oncology [Internet]. 2008 [cited 16:13:21];Available from: <a href="http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2008/03/15/annonc.mdn029.abstract">http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2008/03/15/annonc.mdn029.abstract</a><br /> 2. Halyard MY, Pisansky TM, Dueck AC, Suman V, Pierce L, Solin L, et al. Radiotherapy and Adjuvant Trastuzumab in Operable Breast Cancer: Tolerability and Adverse Event Data From the NCCTG Phase III Trial N9831. Journal of Clinical Oncology. 2009 Jun 1;27(16):2638 -2644. Available from: <a href="http://jco.ascopubs.org/content/27/16/2638.abstract">http://jco.ascopubs.org/content/27/16/2638.abstract</a></p> <p>The two articles have analysed the toxicity in a cohort given trastuzumab concurrently with RT. The first study is particularly pertinent for your patient. While skin and esophageal toxicity were not significantly increased, but the cardiac function is reduced more. So I would exercise caution if doing IMN radiation. Radiation pneumonitis is not significantly increased either. In addition <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/55726r813p05p927/" target="_blank">this</a> interesting rat model study also suggests there is little increase in late radiation pneumonitis. It is important to stress here that the first study was having a retrospective design for RT data collection. The 2nd study did not allow use of IMN (2% received it though) and though prospective was not designed to answer the question of increase/decrease toxicity with use of trastuzumab and herceptin.</p> <p>However there are several pertinent issues that the authors of the 1st article pointed out with respect to concurrent use of Trastuzumab and RT in breast cancer patient with IMN reported by shaffer et al in a letter to the editor. The letter is available <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6TBY-4W6X3BM-4&amp;_user=1067480&amp;_coverDate=01%2F31%2F2010&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=high&amp;_orig=search&amp;_origin=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000051253&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=1067480&amp;md5=80d87e5ed1c955a44c7b09ed88ff2756&amp;searchtype=a" target="_blank">here</a> and gives a nice highlight of the pertinent issues with shaffer's study which did show no increase in cardiotoxicity with the use of Trastuzumab concurrent with RT.</p> 
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				<title>Herceptin : Can we give with radiation?: Re: herceptin :can we give with radiation?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Santam Chakraborty </wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416676</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Hi Sayan, Could you give us more details like her stage, histology and coexisting comorbidities etc?</p> 
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				<title>Herceptin : Can we give with radiation?: herceptin :can we give with radiation?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>sayan paul</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>535064</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>a 47 yr old Ca breast , post bcs pt is Her 2 neu +ve , post sx she has taken 6 cycles CT(FEC) , it took around 3.5 months .Now she is being planned for RT. but the qs is should we start herceptin along with RT or to wait for RT completion or start herceptin before RT? If we give herceptin first then RT will be delayed further . Is this much gap between SX and RT OK?</p> 
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				<title>Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM: Re: Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 14:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>We have planned her for RT and HT , We discussed Chemo option with the Pt and family they have agreed to omit chemotherapy.</p> 
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				<title>Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM: Re: Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nikhilesh Patil</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416151</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>It all depends on what is her expected life expectancy taking into account all the co-morbidities etc., This lady in North America will receive RT+Anastrazole for sure and chemo will be discussed with her.</p> 
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				<title>Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM: Re: Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Pagets Disease can be taken care of by Mastectomy + adjuvant EBRT. Recurrences are few; about 6% in the patients who have undergone BCS with excision of the nipple areola complex. Here too we need not worry about the same.</p> <p>I can't comment on omission of Chemotherapy though. As I mentioned, only hormonal therapy may be suffice. The jury can be out for omission of anthracyclines perhaps in view of their cardiac toxicity.</p> 
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				<title>Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM: Re: Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>sayan paul</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>535064</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Thanks for this nice discussion, what’s about the pagetoid involvement of nipple ? Does it anyhow influence the treatment decision ?and what’s your opinion if we give RT and HT and omit chemotherapy ?</p> 
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				<title>Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM: Re: Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>This is an interesting case scenario.</p> <h2><span>Arguments <strong>AGAINST</strong> radiation delivery</span></h2> <p>1) Age of the patient.<br /> 2) Clear margins<br /> 3) ER+. Some people may advocate adjuvant hormonal therapy alone.<br /> 4) Co-morbidities.</p> <h2><span>Arguments <strong>FOR</strong> Radiation <strong>AND</strong> Systemic Therapy:</span></h2> <p>1) She has a single node positivity in the Axilla along with adverse histopathological features:<br /> a) <em>Lymphvascular Invasion,</em><br /> b) <em>Grade III tumor</em><br /> c) <em>Perineural Invasion.</em><br /> d) <em>She has been operated twice</em>; for recurrence pointing towards aggressiveness although we don't know what the initial HPR has been.<br /> e) <em>KPS 80</em>.</p> <p>In view of her age, it can be argued that breast cancer <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>MAY NOT</strong> be the competing cause of death</span>. However, keeping the adverse issues in mind, I would strongly argue for a clear cut case of systemic therapy AND Radiation to chest wall.</p> <p>I am assuming that there is no ECE in the dissected axillary node which would in any case bolster my argument for systemic therapy AND radiation. I would then follow it up with hormonal therapy.</p> <p>The main reason for advocating radiation here is the results from Danish Post Menopausal trial. Although there did not seem to be any benefit in patients having 1-3 positive nodes but if you look carefully, the median number of nodes dissected was about 7. It has been shown in subsequent studies that the less number of nodes taken out for staging is perhaps an indicator for higher nodal positivity which otherwise has not been taken out.</p> <p>Further, the loco-regional relapse rates in patients in the Danish study with nodal positivity and post operative radiation was about 4% indicating a benefit of radiation than those who did not get any adjuvant therapy (relapse rates around 15%).</p> <p>To give XRT or not is again matter of debate which has not been settled; SUPREMO Trial results would give us a CLEAR CUT answer!</p> 
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				<title>Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM: Re: Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 04:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>sorry , i just missed two very important points , initial size was 3.5x2 cmm and there was pagetoid involvment of nipple areola complex.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Sayan - what's the size of the primary lesion?</p> 
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				<title>Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM: Adjuvant treatment in a73 year old patient with ca breast post MRM</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>A case of infiltrating ductal ca left breast in a 73 year old patient ,operated twice wide excision and which was followed by MRM, HPE - margin negative , grade III, ER + , PR-, Her 2 neu +, LVI +, PNI+, one out of 16 axillary LN + KPS 80, Diabetic , Hypertensive, what should be the adjuvant treatment?</p> 
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				<title>Breast Seed Brachtherapy: Breast Seed Brachtherapy</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nikhilesh Patil</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>416151</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I would like the house to comment about Breast Seed Brachytherapy as a treatment modality to do APBI? Any experience/ interest in this treatment option? What does people think about Seed Brachy vs HDR Vs IMRT/3DCRT APBI ?</p> 
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